Ancestry Discontinuing Rootsweb Surname List (RSL)

Hello Fellow Rootseekers,

I’ve been away from here for quite a while and hope that my small list of readers is still out there. I just found out today from the forum of the Guild of One-Name Studies that Ancestry.com is removing a resource from their free Rootsweb collection of databases:

The venerable Rootsweb Surname List, which allows researchers to search for others interested in the same surname, will be removed from the Rootsweb collection on October 24, 2017.

As some of you might remember, I started this blog in response to Ancestry’s decision to discontinue their Genforum site, which was originally part of Genealogy.com

This might not have much of an impact on Palcic researchers, since Daniel Palcic (who has been offline for several years) and I are the only ones listed there for the Palcic surname, but I’m posting this notice here since there may be others reading this who are researching other surnames.

If you think there might be surnames of interest to you, be sure to visit the Rootsweb Surname List before October 24, 2017. Many of the entries are old by internet standards, and the e-mail addresses might not work, but it might still be worth a look, as there are other Palcic researchers using Rootweb’s WorldConnect Project, which is a database of GEDCOM files submitted by researchers that are available to download into family tree software programs such as Legacy Family Tree and Rootsmagic.

I took a look at the Rootsweb WorldConnect Project pages for Palcic GEDCOM files. There are 78 hits (more than a few duplicated), and fifteen or sixteen different researchers who shared the information in those GEDCOM files. After a detailed look at the information they uploaded, it appears that most of them are focusing on other families into which the Palcics married, but I will still try to contact a few of them to see if there is any interest in the Palcic surname. I’ll share any feedback with “yes” answer to that question here.

Also, stay tuned for more information on various research threads I am trying to bring together with research from Palcic families in Slovenia and their connections to descendants of immigrants who settled in the US and Canada.

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Slovenian Surname Statistics

Here is a link to a website from the Statistical Office of the Republic of Slovenia that allows you to search for your first name or surname to see frequencies of the same in eight of the twelve statistical regions of the country:

How common are your first name and family name?

Here are the results of a search for the Palčič surname:

I’d like to see the statistics for the regions where the data is not available, but it’s clear that Palčič is not a common surname in Slovenia. For comparison, here is a table taken from the results of a search at http://forebears.io:

The data from the two different sources is not exactly correlated, since the Slovenian set was created in 2016 and the Forebears data was created in 2014. Additionally, the 2016 data from Slovenia probably excludes a number of instances from the statistical regions where the data are confidential. I also have a data set from US telephone directory listings that includes variant spellings not shown in either of the lists above.

I’m experimenting with Tableau® software and the data I’ve collected for Palcic immigrants from Slovenia and Croatia who left those countries for destinations in the United States. I hope to create some interesting visual displays for various data sets over the years that Palcic individuals or families arrived in the US.

(Slovenian data © 2016 Statistical Office of the Republic of Slovenia | Country data set © 2012-2016 forebears.io)

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Panorama Sunday Spotlight: Patrick Palcic

Patrick Palcic is participating in the Pure Talents Contest, sponsored by the IMM-Cologne. A copper clock created by German artist Patrick Palcic emits different perfumes every hour:

Copper clock by Patrick Palcic uses perfume to tell time

Here is a brief interview with Patrick Palcic, who is a native of Stuttgart, Germany:

Pure Talents Contest Nominee Patrick Palcic: “For my work I need coffee, music, fun and a sketchbook.”

Congratulations on your nomination, Patrick, and good luck!

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Monday (Palcic Photo?) Mystery

Happy New Year!

I thought I would start the new year with a new post about a photo I received from my mother. This photo was part of a collection that my father inherited when his mother, Agnes (Palcic) Sargin passed away. My mother first showed me this photograph when I was visiting her with my wife last summer in Ohio:

The man in the photo may be a Palcic or other family relative (more below) of my grandmother Agnes. The interesting thing is that the address of the photographer is in Herne, a city not far from where we live in Germany. The i/W. is an abbreviation meaning “in Westfalen” or “in Westphalia”, since there is more than one place named Herne in modern Germany. The photo studio no longer exists, but the address (if not the same building) does.

It would be an interesting coincidence to find a Palcic who lived (even temporarily) in the Ruhr region of Germany. I already know a story about a Palcic family who came to Bochum, Germany from Vrhnika pri Lozu before 1906 and left for Iowa in the US after only a few years in Germany, but I have spoken to a descendant of that Palcic family who does not think the photo shows her grandfather, who was most likely a coal miner in Germany

The style of the clothing that the man in the photo is wearing may indicate some sort of trade, like a carpenter’s union.

I have no idea who this person is, or if he is actually related to my grandmother or one of her (Palcic) parents. One Palcic family stopping in Germany between Slovenia and the United States is interesting. If this man is a Palcic relative, then that would be more than an interesting coincidence. Other possibilities include a Mežič relative (my grandmother’s maternal line) or Planinc (my great grandmother’s brother-in-law’s family) or someone not related.

If anyone has a any clues about who this man might be, please leave a comment below or send me a note at palcic@one-name.org.

Your provider of Palcic puzzles,

Chris

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Happy Holidays!

Holiday Greetings to All Palcic Families! A few Palcic descendants have birthdays on Christmas day:

Dorothy (Kotnik) Matusek (1924-1988), daughter of Anton Kotnik and Johanna Palcic (Euclid, Ohio, USA)

Anton Palčič, (1875-1966) husband of Anna Novlan, son of Thomas Palčič and Greta Ozic (Paradise Hill, Saskatchewan, Canada)

Justin Palcic (living), Happy Birthday, Justin!

Steve Botche (1886-1916), son of Michael Botche and Baga Palcic (Springfield, Ohio, USA)

Stay tuned for more posts about Palcic descendants in Ljubljana and Slovenia generally, as well as Australia. Don’t forget to click on the link “Entries RSS” to read new posts via your favorite news reader/aggregator!

On behalf of my family, I wish all of you readers out there a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Blessed 2017.

Chris

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American Football in Ljubljana

Former NFL and college coach Bob Palcic will be coaching the American Football team in Ljubljana, the Silverhawks:

Veteran NFL Coach Bob Palcic To Guide Slovenia’s Ljubljana Silverhawks

(reposted from American Football International)

I’ve been in contact with Bob about his stay in Slovenia. His Palcic grandfather came from Vrhnika pri Lozu in Slovenia, the same village where my great grandfather was born.

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Palcic Pedigree Collapse: Your Family: Past, Present, and Future (reposted)

This article comes from Tim Urban at “Wait But Why”. I thought it might be interesting to illustrate the concept of pedigree collapse. We’ve always thought that the generations of our ancestors double as we reach back into our family history, and mathematically, they do. But there weren’t enough people in the ancient world to allow us each to have 68 billion ancestors ca. 1100 A.D(!).

I’m not a mathematician or statistician, but the idea is interesting, if not the number-crunching. Here is the article:

Your Family: Past, Present, and Future

Meanwhile, I am still working on other topics for new posts here. Anyone for DNA testing? I know there must be some of you out there wondering what all the fuss about that is…

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Any suggestions for a new title?

panorama

noun pan·o·rama \ˌpa-nə-ˈra-mə, -ˈrä-\

: a full and wide view of something
: a way of showing or telling something that includes a lot of information and covers many topics : a thorough presentation of a subject
: a group that includes many different people or things : a wide selection
:a comprehensive presentation of a subject
:a picture exhibited a part at a time by being unrolled before the spectator

I have temporarily changed the blog title, as the definitions above seem to fit nicely with my goals of presenting various types of data on Palcic families around the world.

If you have any other suggestions, please do let me know! I have one more playful (as well as meaningful) possibility in mind, but your contributions and ideas are also welcome and appreciated.

You can also follow the blog to keep up to date. Just click on the “Entries RSS” link on the right to subscribe, so you get fresh posts to your favorite news reader.

I’m still tinkering with the format and layout of the blog, so if you see some changes along the way, no worries. I will be adding content from various historical data sets (census records, passenger arrival lists, and the like) as time permits.

Stay tuned for further developments.

 

 

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Here are the first Palcic “pioneers” to settle in the United States, at least as far as can be determined by the 1900 U.S. Federal Census (year of arrival in parentheses, followed by residence in 1900):

  1. Palchitch, Joseph (1890) Calumet, Michigan
  2. Palcict [sic], Ernest (1892) Manhattan, New York
  3. Palcic, Anton (with family) (1893) Leadville, Colorado
  4. Polsich, Joseph (with family) (1893) Unity, Pennsylvania
  5. Palcich, John (1899) Youngstown, Ohio (residing in same house with #6 and #7)
  6. Palcich, Ivan (1899) Youngstown, Ohio (residing in same house with #5 and #7)
  7. Palcich, Petro (1899) Youngstown, Ohio (residing in same house with #6 and #7)
  8. Palcic, John (1900) Saybrook, Ohio

Other individuals whose names are similar (these might be Palcics whose surnames were misspelled):

  1. Polsis, John (with family) (1882) New Florence, Pennsylvania
  2. Palcisco*, Joe (with family) (1888) Beccaria Township, Pennsylvania
  3. Paulchech, Anton (1864) New York City, New York
  4. Paulchick, Martin (18??) Cañon City, Colorado
  5. Paulicic, Barbara (1900) Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
  6. Paulicish, Stephen (1899) Calumet, Michigan (possibly related to Joseph Palchitch)
  7. Paulisick, Mateo (1881) (with family) North Huntington, Pennsylvania

Two of the families (#1 Joseph Palchitch and #3 Anton Palcic) have descendants still living in the United States. I will share more demographic information about each individual or family as well as data from later census enumerations and immigrant arrivals in future posts.

In recent years, I have come to the tentative conclusion that there may be a connection between Palcic and Paulisich/Paulicic families, but to date I have found no direct evidence for such a connection.

*Palcisco is included here based on the declared place of birth, “Aust[ria] Slovenian [sic]”, though it could be ethnically Italian.

 

 

 

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Welcome!

Hello there! You’ve found the new virtual home for Palcic and variant surnames. The site is still under construction, and the plan is to feature data about the Palcic surname and its variants all around the world, from its point(s) of origin in southeastern Europe to the the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia and elsewhere. The idea behind this site was the brainchild of two Palcic cousins, one of whom (your host) is now a member of the Guild of One-Name Studies, whose web gurus have generously provided this space for me to hang out my shingle and share information about the Palcic surname. If you are curious about what a one-name study is, visit this page.

So why am I doing this? It all started back in 1986 when I had my first encounter with a source document from the former Yugoslavia, which was the death certficate for my great-grandfather Anton Palčič. This odyssey has led me from Cleveland, Ohio to several towns in the Lož Valley in Slovenia and and more towns on the island of Pag in Croatia in the search for clues to the origin of the name. Along the way, I’ve met and talked to many relatives and not a few friends and acquaintances who have generously given their time, resources and information about Palcic families around the world.

Another reason I decided to undertake this effort was the sale of genealogy.com to Ancestry in 2014, and the subsequent shutdown of genealogy.com’s Genforum pages. Genforum was a massive collection of surname and locality bulletin boards which offered the opportunity to post queries, share surname and other relevant genealogical information, and connect with other researchers. The site still exists, however, since September 30, 2014, it has been closed to new postings.

Many Palcic relatives descended from immigrants posted to the Palcic page at Genforum and my cousin Daniel Palcic has spoken to dozens (if not hundreds) of Palcic family members on the phone over the years. Between the two of us, I believe we have the largest collection of data on various Palcic families in the world. This is not to say that we have every bit of information about every family, rather, we have tried to collect information about as many Palcic immigrants who settled outside of Croatia and Slovenia and track their descendants wherever they might be, and however they might now spell their variant of the Palcic surname.

As these pages are expanded, they will feature compilations of data about the Palcic name and its variants in immigration records, census abstracts, city directories and other aggregate sources. If you have an interest in the Palcic surname, please do contact me. Chances are that I can tell you who your immigrant ancestor was if you have a Palcic in your family history.

Feel free to leave a comment to tell me about your connection to the Palcic family or a suggestion for further posts about Palcic immigrants or their descendants. I plan to feature anecdotes about various Palcic families past and present as the Palcic one-name study progresses. Stay tuned here at the “Palcic News Network” for more posts and information about Palcic immigrants and their descendants…

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